[LiQuid]

Ya'll a bunch of filthy pirates

[Master Higgins]

The money shot. This is the last shot of the episode, so don't click if you don't want to see a huge shock.

Spoiler: show

[darfox8]

Spoiler: show

So is guy from the future, and is guy Zoom? Also they obviously know what the word Crisis evokes. With that and the Wayne tech drop they make it seem like they have super ambitious plans for this.

[LiQuid]

SO SHOCK! MUCH SPOILER! WOW!

I have literally no clue what that means. Comic nerds are fucking stupid.

[CrossXhunteR]

Spoiler: show

Is Eddie Thawne just to throw people off, or is he actually a time traveling Eobard Thawne aka Professor Zoom? Is he wheelchair guy's ancestor? Is wheelchair guy Zoom? A future Barry Allen? Booster Gold?

[meDotJS]

Unless those three minutes were that trailer for the season at the end I'm not sure I spotted those extra three minutes they were hyping up.

[kenzo]

[Mr_eX]

Good episode but I didn't find it believable that Multiplex was a threat to him. He can practically be everywhere at once so why would a bunch of dudes be a problem?

[meDotJS]

He's still trying to control his powers. They show that very clearly at the beginning when he overshot the burning building.

[darfox8]

The Flash has been amazing. Sure, it's partly because it's a new shinny show, and it can obviously dip down hill. But this is an order of magnitude better than Arrow. Just in over all quality. The actors the visuals and the story being told.

I feel like Arrow was sacrificed so this show could be created. Arrow took the burden of low budget, CW actors, and it also had the burden of thinking it was necessary to gritty-ize the world. It fought until it was amazing and bonkers and proved that a comic book show was worth producing. So then they greenlight a bigger Superhero show with good actors that's completely comic book from the start.

I'm shitting myself with anticipation for every episode.

[kenzo]

This second episode was good, but you oversold and overhyped everything about it. Especially any pronouncements that it's better than Arrow.

Also, killing off Stagg is fuckin dumb. Thanks for taking Metamorpho off the table in episode 2.

[CrossXhunteR]

Rex Mason doesn't necessarily need Simon Stagg to become Metamorpho. It probably would help though.

[Mr_eX]

[Master Higgins]

I doubt either Stagg or Multiplex are dead, easy enough to come back from that (regrow body parts, it was a clone, etc).

And, Dar, I don't think they took anything away from Arrow. The premiere was fucking incredible!

[darfox8]

Yeah I loved the premier and I'm hyped for tonight's episode. I didn't mean that The Flash premier drained talent or resources from Arrow. I meant Arrow was a half ass'd production compared to The Flash. The Flash came out the gate swinging but Arrow had to prove that more comic booky was better. The Flash wouldn't be around and definitely not the way it is, if it wasn't for Arrow being as successful as it is.

[Master Higgins]

Aaaah, gotcha.

[Mr_eX]

Why did he stop running while he was fighting fools?

[meDotJS]

Why did he stop running while he was fighting fools?

He couldn't control his speed enough to fight while running. He has no idea how to use his speed in fights beyond charging at people yet.

[GiantAsianMan]

Been picked up for a full season (which was never really in doubt).

http://www.hitfix.com/the-fien-print/th ... the-virgin

[kenzo]

Dunno if I'm enjoying Flash as much as Arrow. Barry is kinda bad. And holy crap there is 2x the normal dadporn because Barry has 2x the dads. I'm not looking forward to when professorman becomes his third father figure. Fan service is good though. And so is proto-vibe. How long until Firestorm?

[CrossXhunteR]

Firestorm is around episode 11i think.

[Mr_eX]

I love that this show is full on super power craziness but so far I like Arrow more. It is only 3 episodes in though and Arrow at this point wasn't as good as The Flash already is.

[CrossXhunteR]

I wish we could skip all of the villains of the week and get to an overarching villain, similar to Deathstroke in the second half of season 2 of Arrow. Still have the minor baddies, but have him be up against Zoom or the Rogues or something as the main threat.
I think a lot of the acting is better than the acting in Arrow.

[Mr_eX]

Captain Cold next week should be great

[dakazu]

Amazing CGI in episode 3 makes the fact that all he did was out run the mist that much more hilarious.

Too bad the higher quality of acting/storyline/effects have given it a more serious tone that isn't the campy goodness of Arrow.

Also Barry is hella emo. Like he needs to wear eyeliner and hang out with goth Higgins.

[darfox8]

With the last episode's ending zinger what do you think are the odd that Barry Allen was suppose to be Flash later in his life and Dr. Whats-His-Name is trying to accelerate the timeline for whatever reasons.

Also yeah, smoke effect was surprisingly good. Only scene it looked off to me was when it was going into Flash's mouth. It got real thin and pixalated or something, looked a lot like smoke in video games.

[kenzo]

Arrow at this point wasn't as good as The Flash already is.

I have to disagree. I see it's in vogue lately to trash-talk the beginning of Arrow, even though back when it was happening everyone thought it was the best thing since sliced bread. Arrow started out a little more serious/down to earth, but it had a way better intro. Friggin' Ollie being a cold motherfucker, murdering dudes, and sick acrobatics was the best. And I think people forget how great having Tommy on the show was.

Switch over to the Flash however, and for whatever reason watching Barry fight is the most infuriating thing ever. Like, this most recent episode, he does an inspection of a crime scene while going super fast as if time is slowing down for him. Hey knumbskull! Nobody should ever land a punch on you again if that's how it's going to be this early on! Then there's the scene where he shakes his head so fast that it blurs his face. Hey Barry! Maybe you can do that with other parts of your body! I never want to see you throw a normal punch ever again, you big idiot! Only DBZ machinegun punches from now on! Watching Barry fuck up super bad while fighting is like watching a monkey play with its own feces. And this guy is supposed to be smart? If they were going to have him be such a scrub with his powers this early, they should have carefully and meticulously ramped up his abilities to make it more believable instead of this train wreck of plotholes.

[LiQuid]

Arrow at this point wasn't as good as The Flash already is.

I have to disagree. I see it's in vogue lately to trash-talk the beginning of Arrow, even though back when it was happening everyone thought it was the best thing since sliced bread.

Go read the first couple pages of the Arrow thread dumb ass. We all hated it.

[kenzo]

Go read the first couple pages of the Arrow thread dumb ass. We all hated it.

K.

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD I love this show.

Orly.

Seems like you're the only person who was remotely down on the show, and even then it was on an inconsistent, bipolar basis where one post you'd flame, the other you'd praise. Most people seemed like they were really enjoying it besides a few criticisms (dakazu wasn't impressed with some acting; nobody liked Huntress).

[CrossXhunteR]

Kenzo, you must really hate anytime any comic happens, as the Flash should be able to stop the bad guys before they can even think of being evil. I'm not just limiting this to Flash comics or even just DC comics, but all comics with adversity. He is fast enough to be everywhere always, and he can go through dimensions with his speed.