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		<title>By: Steven Valero "Naota_391"</title>
		<link>http://www.geekbox.net/archives/2009/04/17/what-do-you-want-from-your-games-journalists/comment-page-1/#comment-100124</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Valero "Naota_391"</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 19:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t entirely agree with all that he says, but as you said, it was an interesting read. I&#039;m a little tired of extremely long interviews being the only things that break the pace between the usual flow of things you see on gaming news sites. Editorials like this would be great, and I&#039;d love to hear more about their views on games and the industry. Like this whole thing on games JUST being games these days. That isn&#039;t the reality anymore. Like it or not, games ARE moving away towards more complex things. Games are trying to give you a wider range of emotions than just competitiveness, excitement, and general happy feelings. Games aren&#039;t just games, they are becoming expressions and more along the lines of art. Stories aimed at shocking you, making, sad, happy, and or even angry aren&#039;t just &quot;games&quot; anymore. They&#039;re something more, and I think it&#039;s important that we start talking about and accepting this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t entirely agree with all that he says, but as you said, it was an interesting read. I&#8217;m a little tired of extremely long interviews being the only things that break the pace between the usual flow of things you see on gaming news sites. Editorials like this would be great, and I&#8217;d love to hear more about their views on games and the industry. Like this whole thing on games JUST being games these days. That isn&#8217;t the reality anymore. Like it or not, games ARE moving away towards more complex things. Games are trying to give you a wider range of emotions than just competitiveness, excitement, and general happy feelings. Games aren&#8217;t just games, they are becoming expressions and more along the lines of art. Stories aimed at shocking you, making, sad, happy, and or even angry aren&#8217;t just &#8220;games&#8221; anymore. They&#8217;re something more, and I think it&#8217;s important that we start talking about and accepting this.</p>
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		<title>By: falcomadol</title>
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		<dc:creator>falcomadol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 10:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think that what the games press is putting out is shit.

I do think that their continuously whinging about what they do is annoying, though.

I mean, seriously, has anyone felt more pain ever than listening to Garnett Lee agonize over what score to give to 50 Cent: Blood on the Sand?  Seriously?

Game&#039;s fun, dammit, give it a good score.  And no, on your rating system, C is not a good score.  You know that it isn&#039;t because you believe yourself that it isn&#039;t true because you agonize over whether to give it a C or a B.

If you&#039;re wondering whether a game is a C or a B, and it&#039;s fun, then it&#039;s a B.  If you&#039;re uncomfortable with scoring, then don&#039;t score.  If you can&#039;t enjoy a fun game without criticizing it...then it&#039;s time to go develop games like the dozens of other games writers that have been leaving the sinking games press ship like wet rats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think that what the games press is putting out is shit.</p>
<p>I do think that their continuously whinging about what they do is annoying, though.</p>
<p>I mean, seriously, has anyone felt more pain ever than listening to Garnett Lee agonize over what score to give to 50 Cent: Blood on the Sand?  Seriously?</p>
<p>Game&#8217;s fun, dammit, give it a good score.  And no, on your rating system, C is not a good score.  You know that it isn&#8217;t because you believe yourself that it isn&#8217;t true because you agonize over whether to give it a C or a B.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re wondering whether a game is a C or a B, and it&#8217;s fun, then it&#8217;s a B.  If you&#8217;re uncomfortable with scoring, then don&#8217;t score.  If you can&#8217;t enjoy a fun game without criticizing it&#8230;then it&#8217;s time to go develop games like the dozens of other games writers that have been leaving the sinking games press ship like wet rats.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 19:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Depends on the site or source I&#039;m going to, N&#039;Gai I like reading his views on most aspects of gaming/journalism because he can convey them in an eloquent manner that is enjoyable to read.If im going to Kotaku i just want bullet points and links. 

So long as its good writing I&#039;ll enjoy it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Depends on the site or source I&#8217;m going to, N&#8217;Gai I like reading his views on most aspects of gaming/journalism because he can convey them in an eloquent manner that is enjoyable to read.If im going to Kotaku i just want bullet points and links. </p>
<p>So long as its good writing I&#8217;ll enjoy it</p>
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		<title>By: sdf</title>
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		<dc:creator>sdf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 12:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey look, I have a high-school diploma.  Tom your &quot;comment&quot; is overwrought and adds up to nothing.  Game journalists writing about game journalism is as useless as weathermen talking about meteorology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey look, I have a high-school diploma.  Tom your &#8220;comment&#8221; is overwrought and adds up to nothing.  Game journalists writing about game journalism is as useless as weathermen talking about meteorology.</p>
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		<title>By: Dexter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dexter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 09:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the future of games Jounalism is Blog with some more in depth content. I know I spend most of my time on Giant Bomb which is much like Joystiq except the put an extra emphasis on unique video content. 

I feel though that Giant Bomb reports news when it comes in much like Joystiq and Kotaku and I feel it was unfair when you called Joystiq and Kotaku the same Ryan but cant notice that Giant Bomb is much similiar. Both Kotaku and Joystiq have unique and funny features and personalities. Giant Bomb is my favourite website because of the way they report the news as it happens but never uses it as a headline.

The main reason most people used to buy mags was for new screenshots, announcments and a glance at reviews. Sites like joystiq provide this information in a 21st century way and I feel this is the way it should go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the future of games Jounalism is Blog with some more in depth content. I know I spend most of my time on Giant Bomb which is much like Joystiq except the put an extra emphasis on unique video content. </p>
<p>I feel though that Giant Bomb reports news when it comes in much like Joystiq and Kotaku and I feel it was unfair when you called Joystiq and Kotaku the same Ryan but cant notice that Giant Bomb is much similiar. Both Kotaku and Joystiq have unique and funny features and personalities. Giant Bomb is my favourite website because of the way they report the news as it happens but never uses it as a headline.</p>
<p>The main reason most people used to buy mags was for new screenshots, announcments and a glance at reviews. Sites like joystiq provide this information in a 21st century way and I feel this is the way it should go.</p>
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		<title>By: Brock</title>
		<link>http://www.geekbox.net/archives/2009/04/17/what-do-you-want-from-your-games-journalists/comment-page-1/#comment-100067</link>
		<dc:creator>Brock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 07:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beat me to the punch Tom.


Truer worder never typed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beat me to the punch Tom.</p>
<p>Truer worder never typed.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.geekbox.net/archives/2009/04/17/what-do-you-want-from-your-games-journalists/comment-page-1/#comment-100066</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 06:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of the replies above and elsewhere reveal an inertia to thought. Many gamers seem to be too lazy to entertain the idea of helping out their informants, the reporters and journalists, with a little consideration about what they might actually want to consume. So it goes, as per the post:

PUBLIC: &quot;Games journalism is shit.&quot;
JOURNO: &quot;Ok how about.... THIS.&quot;
PUBLIC: &quot;That was pretentious.&quot;

And then on the forums and blogs:

JOURNO: &quot;Riiight, so what is it you actually want?&quot;
PUBLIC: &quot;Write about games.&quot;
JOURNO: &quot;But how? In what way and to how much depth? How much of my time, money and effort is required to meet your needs?&quot;
PUBLIC: &quot;SHUT UP!! SHUUT UUUUP! Just write about games.&quot;
JOURNO: &quot;Fine! Here.&quot;
PUBLIC: &quot;That was shit again. Great, more shit.&quot;
JOURNO: &quot;Ok, then. Here.&quot;
PUBLIC: &quot;Pretentious! Where are the games?!&quot;

What should then happen is all writing about or around games ceases and one central website opens where publishers can post press releases and former games journalists submit percent scores for approval for each one, assuming they have played it for at least half an hour.

Gamers! Stop demanding for more then demanding less at the same time with zero clarification. Is it any wonder games journalism is so unsure of itself? It&#039;s audience refuse to give feedback! Stop asking them to stop asking us what we want—they&#039;re trying to make us happy! &quot;Just write about games&quot; means nothing! Your brains are in atrophy. Think for 5 minutes a day. Honestly, you&#039;ll feel great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of the replies above and elsewhere reveal an inertia to thought. Many gamers seem to be too lazy to entertain the idea of helping out their informants, the reporters and journalists, with a little consideration about what they might actually want to consume. So it goes, as per the post:</p>
<p>PUBLIC: &#8220;Games journalism is shit.&#8221;<br />
JOURNO: &#8220;Ok how about&#8230;. THIS.&#8221;<br />
PUBLIC: &#8220;That was pretentious.&#8221;</p>
<p>And then on the forums and blogs:</p>
<p>JOURNO: &#8220;Riiight, so what is it you actually want?&#8221;<br />
PUBLIC: &#8220;Write about games.&#8221;<br />
JOURNO: &#8220;But how? In what way and to how much depth? How much of my time, money and effort is required to meet your needs?&#8221;<br />
PUBLIC: &#8220;SHUT UP!! SHUUT UUUUP! Just write about games.&#8221;<br />
JOURNO: &#8220;Fine! Here.&#8221;<br />
PUBLIC: &#8220;That was shit again. Great, more shit.&#8221;<br />
JOURNO: &#8220;Ok, then. Here.&#8221;<br />
PUBLIC: &#8220;Pretentious! Where are the games?!&#8221;</p>
<p>What should then happen is all writing about or around games ceases and one central website opens where publishers can post press releases and former games journalists submit percent scores for approval for each one, assuming they have played it for at least half an hour.</p>
<p>Gamers! Stop demanding for more then demanding less at the same time with zero clarification. Is it any wonder games journalism is so unsure of itself? It&#8217;s audience refuse to give feedback! Stop asking them to stop asking us what we want—they&#8217;re trying to make us happy! &#8220;Just write about games&#8221; means nothing! Your brains are in atrophy. Think for 5 minutes a day. Honestly, you&#8217;ll feel great.</p>
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		<title>By: Gamerview &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Gamer Incoveniente #1 - Leitor, Quem És Tu?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gamerview &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Gamer Incoveniente #1 - Leitor, Quem És Tu?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 06:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Ryan Scott escreveu em seu blog, o Geekbox, é difícil acreditar que o público realmente queira uma cobertura mais rica da indústria dos [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Ryan Scott escreveu em seu blog, o Geekbox, é difícil acreditar que o público realmente queira uma cobertura mais rica da indústria dos [...]</p>
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		<title>By: sdf</title>
		<link>http://www.geekbox.net/archives/2009/04/17/what-do-you-want-from-your-games-journalists/comment-page-1/#comment-100064</link>
		<dc:creator>sdf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 01:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how about this: please stfu about game journalism, and write about games again ffs</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how about this: please stfu about game journalism, and write about games again ffs</p>
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		<title>By: Teng</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 11:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As usual I think this is simple a problem with people (particularly the internet ones) in general.  They just like to critique.  So yes, you will be damned regardless of your actions.

I personally carry little expectations from game journalists, I mean in the manner in which they convey themselves that is.  If i don&#039;t like what i&#039;m reading i simply DON&#039;T READ IT.  No one is forcing me to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As usual I think this is simple a problem with people (particularly the internet ones) in general.  They just like to critique.  So yes, you will be damned regardless of your actions.</p>
<p>I personally carry little expectations from game journalists, I mean in the manner in which they convey themselves that is.  If i don&#8217;t like what i&#8217;m reading i simply DON&#8217;T READ IT.  No one is forcing me to.</p>
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