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		<title>By: hittbutt</title>
		<link>http://www.geekbox.net/archives/2009/03/02/watchmen-whats-different/comment-page-1/#comment-99869</link>
		<dc:creator>hittbutt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 02:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The assassination of JFK was in the movie.  Brains flew then, the screen went to Blake as he packed up his gun.</description>
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		<title>By: troy</title>
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		<dc:creator>troy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 12:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those of you that are coming on here and saying &quot;the watchmen movie sucks donkey cock&quot; etc ,i&#039;ve gotta ask have you even read the book?

Your not backing yourselves up at all and you are making yourselves sound like jackasses.i think that synder did a great job at adapting a difficult book he cut where he needed to to keep it under 3 hrs and I&#039;m fine with that, if you want the extended cut then wait for the dvd.

Some changes i wasn&#039;t real happy about (john being framed) but i understand why it had to be done, you can&#039;t end with a giant blob that kills everyone with the power of its mind as it dies, the movie has to appeal to people that arn&#039;t fans of the comic if its gonna succeed.

The casting was overall good Jackie Earle Haley was freaking awsome as Rorschach a great brutal ,primal proformance that really set the tone for the  movie.

So to conclude my rant:
1.Thats how you backup your opinion (for all the blind haters)
2.IF WE WANT TO SEE MORE MOVIES IN THIS VEIN WE NEED TO SUPPORT THESE SORT OF FILMS! 

Shit if you don&#039;t like it thats fine, but don&#039;t act like a dick about it because all your gonna do is put off people that might like the movie and deter them from seeing it, and if this 150 million doillar experiment fails when do you think were going to see another dark,gritty comic adaptation made specificaly for the adult demographic?............never 

Then all you asses will miss out on some great movies...along with the rest of us..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those of you that are coming on here and saying &#8220;the watchmen movie sucks donkey cock&#8221; etc ,i&#8217;ve gotta ask have you even read the book?</p>
<p>Your not backing yourselves up at all and you are making yourselves sound like jackasses.i think that synder did a great job at adapting a difficult book he cut where he needed to to keep it under 3 hrs and I&#8217;m fine with that, if you want the extended cut then wait for the dvd.</p>
<p>Some changes i wasn&#8217;t real happy about (john being framed) but i understand why it had to be done, you can&#8217;t end with a giant blob that kills everyone with the power of its mind as it dies, the movie has to appeal to people that arn&#8217;t fans of the comic if its gonna succeed.</p>
<p>The casting was overall good Jackie Earle Haley was freaking awsome as Rorschach a great brutal ,primal proformance that really set the tone for the  movie.</p>
<p>So to conclude my rant:<br />
1.Thats how you backup your opinion (for all the blind haters)<br />
2.IF WE WANT TO SEE MORE MOVIES IN THIS VEIN WE NEED TO SUPPORT THESE SORT OF FILMS! </p>
<p>Shit if you don&#8217;t like it thats fine, but don&#8217;t act like a dick about it because all your gonna do is put off people that might like the movie and deter them from seeing it, and if this 150 million doillar experiment fails when do you think were going to see another dark,gritty comic adaptation made specificaly for the adult demographic?&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;never </p>
<p>Then all you asses will miss out on some great movies&#8230;along with the rest of us..</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny Postman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnny Postman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 19:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought the movie was so-so but aside from the difference between the book/film, did anyone else think the the soundtrack was terrible?  The choice of songs didn&#039;t help and ended up being more of a distraction from the film more than anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought the movie was so-so but aside from the difference between the book/film, did anyone else think the the soundtrack was terrible?  The choice of songs didn&#8217;t help and ended up being more of a distraction from the film more than anything.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Kleiman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Kleiman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 17:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Skrattybones

The squid wasn&#039;t necessary, but I don&#039;t think Dr. Manhattan was a good choice. Because they turned it from &quot;the world joined in a tenuous alliance against a single enemy&quot; into &quot;Threatened Nuclear Holocaust? That&#039;s a paddlin&#039;.&quot; 

They literally turned Dr. Manhattan into God, watching over mankind and making sure they behave. Which is internally consistent, as humanity does have a better chance against a squid than against the Almighty, but still a poor choice for a change. Humanity has no choice but behave now, hence the &#039;everyone&#039;s just happy happy hippies&#039; from the New Frontiersman editor. It loses the &#039;will this really solve anything?&#039; question hinted at in Watchmen. But... that&#039;s what the movie does. It answers a lot of questions that were cooler unanswered. I didn&#039;t need to see the Comedian killing JFK. It&#039;s cool enough that they hint at it -- they could have just shown Blake on the grassy knoll, as they do in the comics. It&#039;s the same with the Silhouette. Her lesbianism was only hinted at, her murder something the other heroes didn&#039;t speak of. Again, subtlety is not Snyder&#039;s forte. Action sequences are. He really should stick to Frank Miller books. Maybe he can save the Daredevil franchise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Skrattybones</p>
<p>The squid wasn&#8217;t necessary, but I don&#8217;t think Dr. Manhattan was a good choice. Because they turned it from &#8220;the world joined in a tenuous alliance against a single enemy&#8221; into &#8220;Threatened Nuclear Holocaust? That&#8217;s a paddlin&#8217;.&#8221; </p>
<p>They literally turned Dr. Manhattan into God, watching over mankind and making sure they behave. Which is internally consistent, as humanity does have a better chance against a squid than against the Almighty, but still a poor choice for a change. Humanity has no choice but behave now, hence the &#8216;everyone&#8217;s just happy happy hippies&#8217; from the New Frontiersman editor. It loses the &#8216;will this really solve anything?&#8217; question hinted at in Watchmen. But&#8230; that&#8217;s what the movie does. It answers a lot of questions that were cooler unanswered. I didn&#8217;t need to see the Comedian killing JFK. It&#8217;s cool enough that they hint at it &#8212; they could have just shown Blake on the grassy knoll, as they do in the comics. It&#8217;s the same with the Silhouette. Her lesbianism was only hinted at, her murder something the other heroes didn&#8217;t speak of. Again, subtlety is not Snyder&#8217;s forte. Action sequences are. He really should stick to Frank Miller books. Maybe he can save the Daredevil franchise.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Kleiman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Kleiman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 16:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The movie was garbage; I was always in the camp that thought the movie shouldn&#039;t be made, but I&#039;m certain that it should have been done by a more talented, more nuanced director. It&#039;s as if he had the amazing talent to make almost every bit of dialogue sound  like it&#039;s from a much worse comic book, and there was a hell of a lot of dialogue. Honestly, a word for word adaptation of the comic would have been more palatable.

What I thought was particularly annoying was how all depth was removed from the character. Rorschach is clearly unstable, but clearly not the extreme right-wing, misogynistic, gay-hating paranoid nutjob he is in the comic. Now he&#039;s just a Batman Who Kills. They just removed the lines that help round out the character. But they did that all around, they turned almost all characters 1-dimensional, removed all doubt from the conclusion as well! Everything&#039;s just a hippie commune.

I realize that the comic couldn&#039;t be turned into a movie unchanged, but if the challenge to create a proper adaptation exceeds the director&#039;s talents (and greater directors, like Terry Gilliam realized the difficulty of the project) then it&#039;s the director&#039;s own fault to carry on. It&#039;s not like we haven&#039;t been hearing Alan Moore&#039;s opinion on the subject for at least a decade.

One thing that&#039;s been bothering me is the Sally Jupiter attempted rape. It was far more violent than the comic... though all fight scenes were more violent than their comic counterparts. I thought it seemed somewhat sadistic and maybe misogynistic, but I may just be carrying the baggage of 300&#039;s entirely unnecessary rape-including subplot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The movie was garbage; I was always in the camp that thought the movie shouldn&#8217;t be made, but I&#8217;m certain that it should have been done by a more talented, more nuanced director. It&#8217;s as if he had the amazing talent to make almost every bit of dialogue sound  like it&#8217;s from a much worse comic book, and there was a hell of a lot of dialogue. Honestly, a word for word adaptation of the comic would have been more palatable.</p>
<p>What I thought was particularly annoying was how all depth was removed from the character. Rorschach is clearly unstable, but clearly not the extreme right-wing, misogynistic, gay-hating paranoid nutjob he is in the comic. Now he&#8217;s just a Batman Who Kills. They just removed the lines that help round out the character. But they did that all around, they turned almost all characters 1-dimensional, removed all doubt from the conclusion as well! Everything&#8217;s just a hippie commune.</p>
<p>I realize that the comic couldn&#8217;t be turned into a movie unchanged, but if the challenge to create a proper adaptation exceeds the director&#8217;s talents (and greater directors, like Terry Gilliam realized the difficulty of the project) then it&#8217;s the director&#8217;s own fault to carry on. It&#8217;s not like we haven&#8217;t been hearing Alan Moore&#8217;s opinion on the subject for at least a decade.</p>
<p>One thing that&#8217;s been bothering me is the Sally Jupiter attempted rape. It was far more violent than the comic&#8230; though all fight scenes were more violent than their comic counterparts. I thought it seemed somewhat sadistic and maybe misogynistic, but I may just be carrying the baggage of 300&#8242;s entirely unnecessary rape-including subplot.</p>
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		<title>By: maxidid</title>
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		<dc:creator>maxidid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 11:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thought the Dr. Manhattan’s penis shots reminded me of Lost and Damned too much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thought the Dr. Manhattan’s penis shots reminded me of Lost and Damned too much.</p>
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		<title>By: Brokren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brokren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 20:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw watchman over the weekend. It sucked major donkey cock.</description>
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		<title>By: Jostein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jostein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 16:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Ryan, this movie was amazing.

Loved all the actors, perfect casting if you ask me. particularly Rorschach and Comedian.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Ryan, this movie was amazing.</p>
<p>Loved all the actors, perfect casting if you ask me. particularly Rorschach and Comedian.</p>
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		<title>By: Skrattybones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skrattybones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 14:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The whole &quot;giant squid/ Manhattan bomb&quot; thing. I&#039;m pretty confident that the decision to use a giant alien squid in the graphic novel was purely a product of the times. &quot;What is something utterly terrifying?&quot; circa 1980s?

Well, let&#039;s have a look at the culture of the times. Alien and Aliens jump out. Predator, maybe. The &#039;big thing&#039; throughout the 80s was a fascination with outer space and with aliens showing up and causing a ruckus. Present-day the big scary thing are terrorists getting nukes, or more generally the idea of major cities being nuked.

Both devices attempt to create the same sense of terror in the audience, and I would say both of them worked.

Of course the Manhattan Bomb works just as well as a giant alien squid telepathically exploding. Both would present a worldwide sense of just how much death and destruction would exist if nuclear war happened -- enough incentive for everybody in the Cold War to stop.

No, the world wouldn&#039;t unite against America because of the Manhattan device -- they make a point to show Russia moving on the Afghan border to see if America was trying to pull the wool over the world&#039;s eyes when Manhattan leaves. As far as the entire world is concerned, Manhattan is a rogue agent.

No, the world wouldn&#039;t stoop back into fighting because &quot;Manhattan leaves for good&quot;. The world doesn&#039;t know that. As far as the world knows, Manhattan could be hanging out on Mars, waiting to attack. Ozymandias could just fire up the generator and hit some more cities if the world descends back into chaos. There are any number of ways for him to keep the world in check now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whole &#8220;giant squid/ Manhattan bomb&#8221; thing. I&#8217;m pretty confident that the decision to use a giant alien squid in the graphic novel was purely a product of the times. &#8220;What is something utterly terrifying?&#8221; circa 1980s?</p>
<p>Well, let&#8217;s have a look at the culture of the times. Alien and Aliens jump out. Predator, maybe. The &#8216;big thing&#8217; throughout the 80s was a fascination with outer space and with aliens showing up and causing a ruckus. Present-day the big scary thing are terrorists getting nukes, or more generally the idea of major cities being nuked.</p>
<p>Both devices attempt to create the same sense of terror in the audience, and I would say both of them worked.</p>
<p>Of course the Manhattan Bomb works just as well as a giant alien squid telepathically exploding. Both would present a worldwide sense of just how much death and destruction would exist if nuclear war happened &#8212; enough incentive for everybody in the Cold War to stop.</p>
<p>No, the world wouldn&#8217;t unite against America because of the Manhattan device &#8212; they make a point to show Russia moving on the Afghan border to see if America was trying to pull the wool over the world&#8217;s eyes when Manhattan leaves. As far as the entire world is concerned, Manhattan is a rogue agent.</p>
<p>No, the world wouldn&#8217;t stoop back into fighting because &#8220;Manhattan leaves for good&#8221;. The world doesn&#8217;t know that. As far as the world knows, Manhattan could be hanging out on Mars, waiting to attack. Ozymandias could just fire up the generator and hit some more cities if the world descends back into chaos. There are any number of ways for him to keep the world in check now.</p>
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		<title>By: Forceman4077</title>
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		<dc:creator>Forceman4077</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 07:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Hollis death scene is one of a few things that where cut at the end for time. See about 45 mins was cut to get to the 2 and a half hour run time. So it will show up in the Director&#039;s Cut theater release around July if it does well enought at the box office or in the DVD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Hollis death scene is one of a few things that where cut at the end for time. See about 45 mins was cut to get to the 2 and a half hour run time. So it will show up in the Director&#8217;s Cut theater release around July if it does well enought at the box office or in the DVD.</p>
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